tax reform is hard. the tax code will be00 years old less year and we have had less than a handful of comprehensive reforms as a going-in proposition, it's hard to do. >> i have sympathy for what doug said as well. however here's the thing i watched the debate with a bunch of students out of notre dame university and there was a ton of head scratching going on. i want to quote some of the things the governor said. >> brown: it's a good school so there should be smart students. >> he said "i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans." now this is a guy who's going around saying i'm going to have a very large tax cut. >> brown: what does that mean, do you think there? >> what it means is that mitt romney makes a real distinction between cuts in tax rates and cuts in tax liability cuts in what you have to pay the i.r.s. what he's saying is to the wealthy folks we'll cut your rates but raise your deductions so your taxes will be the sam